Talk:Bucky

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Johan: I've got a suggestion for the buckyboard implementation. Add a javascript so it's possible to mark squares. I envision it like so: a klick on a square highlights it with a red border, another klick unhiglights it. It should be quite easy, and it would make it simpler to play. (13:12, 15 Jul 2005 (CEST))

As you know, my efforts are concentrated on producing an external gateway for making moves. This already provides an analogous functionality to the one you describe, albeit not with javascript, which would be cooler. I've uploaded the extension for you — it has the wrong file ending so as not to confuse my server or aggravate my wiki. Feel free to make patches and send them back for integration into the wiki. — Carl 21:29, 15 Jul 2005 (CEST)

Johan: Suggestion for lost pieces view:

The main advantages of displaying it like this:

1. It's easy to see which pieces are removed, both from the position on the board and from the icon of the piece.
2. No need to implement additional functionality (it works now).

(15:05, 18 Jul 2005 (CEST))

Interesting. Let's try it in our current game. — Carl 15:35, 18 Jul 2005 (CEST)

Jonas: What happens in this situation? Will the Chameleon die? If so, will it die even without the jedi?

— Jonas 16:57, 31 Oct 2005 (CET)

Yes, and yes it is doubly hypnotized even without the jedi. A Chameleon can never move into a situation like this one since it would be a suicide mission and such are strictly forbidden in Bucky. --Jonathan 17:39, 31 Oct 2005 (CET)

In other words, the only way this situation could occur would be if the shaman was the last piece to move. Hooray, retrograde analysis in Bucky! :) — Carl 14:33, 3 Nov 2005 (CET)

On the other hand in this example no Chameleon is doubly hypnotized:

This is because only one hypnosis originates from one corner of the Shaman. One direction correspons to one hypnosis. In the first case there are two hypnoses involved, one from the shaman and one from the chameleon. --Jonathan 14:44, 3 Nov 2005 (CET)

Is the white dude in buck?

The following two situations occurred to me. Please help me settle the confusion: is the white dude in buck in the following two situations?

Discussion about the first position here. — Carl 22:38, 31 Jan 2006 (CET)

Johan: Here I think it's buck because black can with only one move strike the dude (but I don't see what the white shamans nor the black cameleons purposes are, so I might be missing something). (23:24, 31 Jan 2006 (CET))

The problem is that in so doing, the wagon is itself removed. — Carl 00:28, 1 Feb 2006 (CET)

Johan: Yes, but the question is in which order it happens, I think. If the wagon is removed after the smash it's buck because then it wouldn't happen (the game has ended), if it's att the same time or before, I think it's illegal. (06:59, 1 Feb 2006 (CET))

Exactly. That's what I need feedback about. Suicide moves in general are disallowed. Which is better, to allow or to disallow suicide moves that remove the dude from the board? I'm leaning towards "disallow", in which case the dude would not be in buck in the above situation. — Carl 12:16, 1 Feb 2006 (CET)

Discussion about the second position here. — Carl 22:38, 31 Jan 2006 (CET)

Johan: Why is the black shaman in the lower left corner needed? I don't think it's in buck because I think that would entail that it's buckmate the next turn it's black to move and white wasted his move by moving the jedi on a7 one step forward or something other unrelated. (23:24, 31 Jan 2006 (CET))

Please ignore this example. It's not a good one, since the madam can move anywhere (except e3) and still fulfil the revenge criteria. I'll try to make up a working example. — Carl 00:28, 1 Feb 2006 (CET)

Here's a new try.

Now the example works. The black chameleon can escape hypnosis by removing the white dude. But can a dude ever actually be removed? What is the general consensus on this? — Carl 12:16, 1 Feb 2006 (CET)